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Philadelphia City Paper
By MJ Fine
"Angel of the Morning
After"
Party jams, like parties, tend to oversell the good times and ignore
the consequences. Big beats and inane lyrics promise glamorous indulgence,
but most song-writers shy away from the inevitable purge. Not Elizabeth
Sharp. She's tapping kegs with junkie lovers, college girls on crank
and bad lays who can't hold their liquor. The Exorcist (Too
Pure), Sharp's fourth album as Ill Ease, captures the pre-dawn moment
when you look around your wrecked home and ask those all-important
existential questions: "Who are these people? And why are they
here?"
Friends are the most frequent target
of Sharp's barbs. "The bags under her eyes are bigger than
what I used the last time I moved," she deadpans on "You
Look Like Hell Tonight." She's skilled at witty put-downs,
but Sharp says she's willing to share the shame.
"Sometimes its sort of like objectifying
yourself.... Sometimes you notice your own faults and weaknesses
in other people," she says on a cell phone halfway between
Chicago and St. Louis. "I think that mutual thing is what ends
up making it a meaningful observation."
The mutual thing, as she calls it,
is evident in her ability to play both sides. Peppered with specifics,
even her most absurd lyrics are about "personal experiences,"
she says, "but seen through other people's perspectives, or
other people's experiences seen through my perspective."
She can maintain some distance from
her subjects, but she hardly sings with the moral authority -- much
less the dulcet tones -- of an angel on high. Take the opening crack
of "Winter in Hell": "I've got a system/I'm always
quitting/I used to just work here/But now I work here and I'm sleeping
with the baw-baw-boss." It's a common enough scenario, but
Sharp's slack delivery and knack for detail endow her alter ego
-- however sleazy -- with an endearing authenticity. She might be
a shady lady, but she sure draws you in.
Skanky characters, bad situations,
poor judgment: This is the stuff of memorable parties. And of
America itself.
Since signing to the London-based
Too Pure label, Sharp hasn't spent much time playing in her homeland.
Now touring the United States as a two-piece with erstwhile Lilys
guitarist Torben Pastore, she has spent much of the last couple
of years in front of European audiences. If anything, that's sharpened
her powers of observation.
"On the one hand, we're obviously
like the largest imperial power in the world," Sharp says,
"but at the same time, if you drive around America, its like
burned-out, post-industrial cities."
Its a point she drowns in Peaches-meets-Sonic
Youth fuzz on "Jersey-O-Matic," The Exorcist's
lead track. "Atlantic City is one of those areas that's just
got such a huge mix between rich and poor," says Sharp, who
recorded 2001's Live at the Holiday Sin in a shore motel.
"You're in the casinos, and it's this insanely rich, like,
money, money, money. And then you walk three blocks away and its
a total ghetto."
Sharp spent five years drumming for
New Radiant Storm King before walking away to do her own thing.
Frustrated with trying to communicate her ideas to her band mates,
she started building songs from the ground up. Up until now,
she'd lay down a beat and then add layers of guitars and keyboards
until she had enough of a structure to hang lyrics on. On some
songs, she never got around to keeping her vocals in tune. "The Skank"
has a charming, half-assed melody; "Winter in Hell" builds
to a chorus so off-key it'll make you cringe and grin at the same
time.
Being a self-contained band has given
Sharp the impetus to try new things. "I'm sort of changing
my approach to it a little bit and like starting to base things
more with guitar," she says. And in a way, that approach has
helped her clarify things. Taking the lead has been a big boost
for her communication skills.
"It's still really noisy,"
she says, "but I feel like I've become more refined, if anything."
She's even started writing with Pastore, with whom she shared guitar
and drum duties. "Given that we're doing this all as a two-piece,
I think it opens up a lot more possibilities," she says. "We're
doing a couple of things with loop stations, which works pretty
well for Ill Ease, 'cause its very loopy."
Like a party's first few rounds, The
Exorcist buzzes with the freedom of letting loose. Or maybe
that's just the lo-fi production.

Chicago Tribune
By Moira McCormick
There's a quasi-myth floating around Elizabeth Sharp, a.k.a. Ill Ease, that
the New York-based one-woman band has a neurological disorder that causes
the creation of music to send abnormal pleasure signals to her brain.
This purportedly explains why Sharp, who brings the seductive, low-fi,
post-indie-rock of Ill Ease to the Abbey Pub on Monday, learns
instruments--drums, bass, guitar, keyboards and more--as easily as she does.
(If that weren't enough, Sharp's also a gifted photographer, with a
collection of corrosive, perversely beautiful urban landscapes in New York's
Museum of Modern Art.)
But it turns out that this disorder doesn't exist . . . not exactly, anyway.
"That whole thing started off as kind of a joke," says Sharp, 32, chuckling
on her cell phone as she heads for a Nyack, N.Y., rehearsal with touring
partner Torben Pastore.
"Someone asked me, `Why do you play music?' `Uh, well, because I like it . .
. '" Sensing that that wasn't a terribly scintillating reply, Sharp says she
subsequently began to clarify the basic effect music has on her by
describing it as "a brain condition where I sensed music as pleasure."
Still, Sharp acknowledges that while this isn't entirely accurate, neither
is it entirely inaccurate--a situation she finds challenging to articulate.
"I do think of [nonmusical] things in musical terms. Numbers, for instance,
have a musical and harmonic connotation for me," she says. "And my
hearing--I don't even know how to describe it. It's probably not worth going
into ... ."
Sure it is.
"Well," Sharp ventures gamely, "most people hear things in a linear way.
Near things sound near, and far things sound far. But I don't necessarily
recognize distance that way. So when I'm mixing a song in the studio, I
don't follow the traditional hierarchy of sound: drums and bass on the
bottom, guitar above that, then vocals above that, because I've never really
heard music that way.
"I tend to keep the percussion loud and vocals quiet. It all comes back to
drums for me," says Sharp, who, before Ill Ease, hit the skins for noise-pop
act New Radiant Storm King, among others. "It all comes back to rhythm."
"Sharp thinks like a drummer," says Pastore, who trades instruments with
Sharp throughout Ill Ease's live performances. "Her songs are really
percussion ensembles with harmonic content. She's made up her own language,
but she makes it understood."
That music sounds familiar, yet off-kilter, exemplified by the heady,
hypnotic brew of primal beats, furry vocals and caustic lyrics heard on Ill
Ease's most recent album, "The Exorcist" (Beggars Banquet).
The punk sensibility of song titles such as "You Know You Make Me Wanna Hate
You," "You Look Like Hell Tonight" and "Walking Catastrophe" is borne out by
Sharp's verses, which are peopled with hard-partying losers, callous and
cynical singles trolling for meaningless physical encounters and enough
hopeless cases to paralyze St. Jude.
She also has a way with elegant, spare descriptions that conjure up a host
of images, as in this bit from "The Skank," describing a bleak college
kegger: "There's a line of trees surrounded the house/The lights won't make
it to the edge./Most of the boys and most of the girls/Won't make it in
their makeshift beds."
"I like to keep things down to their bare essentials, in music and
photography," says Sharp. "I like conveying a wide span of emotions though
economy of words, and economy of images."
Sharp, who comes across in interviews
as the polar opposite of her derisive songwriting persona, acknowledges:
"A lot of the songs are negative, dark characters or alter egos
that I'm exorcising. Music is just a cathartic experience."

Time Out New York
Michelangelos Matos
Today's
technology may allow fledgling musicians to create professional-quality
recordings in their bedrooms, but many people still prefer the fuzzy,
hand-tooled quality of music made with lower-end equipment. Few
recent artists have proven this more arrestingly than Ill Ease,
aka Brooklyn photographer and former New Radian Storm King and Skinner
Pilot drummer Elizabeth Sharp. Over three albumsCircle
Line Tours, Live at the Gate and the brand-new Live
at the Holiday SinSharp has created an unnerving, vaguely
claustrophobic signature sound, jumbling together obsessively circular
melodies, weirdly arresting dynamics, id-ful lyrical jottings and
a haunted, warbling voice similar to the young Moe Tucker's. But
there's also a giddy sense of fun, thanks to the strutting, sometimes
woozy rhythms. The results sound like a cross between a long, dark
night of the soul and a drunken slumber party.
According to the 30-year old Sharp, that's the intention. "I
wanted it to be a record you can hang out and listen to at a party
but at the same time have it feel kind of personal- something you
play on headphones." she says over drinks at a midtown tiki
bar. But Holiday Sin can sound unsettling at times, as on
"Dear Krazy," a plea ("Was it something I said? /
Come on Krazy / Please don't hate me") that could be directed
at either a lover or someone potentially more harmful. Fortunately,
Sharp's sensibility is also wickedly funny. "The Static's Beat"
feels like both a downcast morning-after and a blithe-singsong dismissal:
"You're so easy to pick up / You're so easy to put down / I
don't really care if you go home / Or if you want to stick around/"
Then there's the outlandish, sexually charged "Me & My
Babysitter": "Let's play babysitter / I'll sit on your
face / Let's play babysitter / You can put me in my place."
Sharp admits, "The lyrics are pretty self-indulgent. I don't
really like vague lyricism; I try and be really direct. But I don't
think people appreciate the humor sometimes: ["Me & My
Babysitter"] is supposed to be a mix of totally serious and
totally loopy."
If the new album has a certain cabin-fever feel, it probably
has something to do with the circumstances under which it was created.
Sharp holed up in an Atlantic City motel room for two weeks, creating
Holiday Sin from scratch. "Basically, I just sit down
and play the drums for four minutes," she says, "and then
I play the guitar, bass, whatever sounds complement [the beat],
and then just build everything up around it. The lyrics are always
the last thing I write."
Atlantic City's weathered, vaguely
seedy atmosphere is all over the album, both figuratively and
literally. The disc's striking cover art features faded, pastel-heavy
photographs of motels, cocktail lounges and amusement parks that
seem blurry at first but reveal surprising details the more you
inspect them not unlike the
music itself. As it turns out, Sharp is better known as a photographer
than a musician: Five self-published volumes of her work, including
27 Silos of the Rich and Famous and Nothing Short of Monumental,
are ensconced in MoMA's library (viewable at moma.org).
Sharp seems even more enthusiastic about her CD's artwork than she
is about its music. "I'd never used the matte paper for the
CD [booklet] before," she gushes. "I totally love it.
Its so much nicer than glossy." Spoken like a true lo-fi champion."

Tape Op
Pam Nicholas
First
of all, I think it's really intriguing that you recorded 2001's
Live at the Holiday Sin in a rented motel room in Atlantic City.
How did that come about?
I wanted to get away from the city
and my friend Thom Monahan, who I recorded with before, had a
practice space there. We had a pretty basic mic setup and not
much outboard gear, just maybe one or two compressors, and I
think a preamp. I'd done a lot of bare-bones 4-tracking before,
so that was actually a step up. I did some of the recording at
home, too, with Pro Tools and an analog tape machine, a 1" 16-track,
Tascam MS-16.
What did you use in addition to the
1" 16 track?
I did some of the mixing in Pro Tools
and I used a couple of SM57s and a couple of EV 635a mics - which
are really small trashy mics that make everything sound good
- an AKG C3000 and a couple of answering machine microphones
- which I threw in there for ambiance.
I've liked your stuff all along,
but the latest record, The Exorcist, seems even better. It's
really infectious and hypnotic.
Thanks. Those are two things that
I strive for. I recorded it a while ago, and my favorite thing
about it is that it was mastered at Abbey Road. I got a tour
of the studio while I was over there and I saw the rooms where
the Beatles recorded. They have all these original EMI compressors.
They do most things analog, but back it up to hard drive, so
there's a huge server room. While I was there they were working
on backing up all their different formats to digital. I hung
out and drank some pints in the courtyard with the engineers
for a while afterwards. They have a lathe cutter, so you can
literally cut the album right there. It was cool to see it -
it's a 1960's-looking contraption. The album itself was mostly
recorded with David Barbe in his studio in Athens, Georgia, called
Chase Park [Transduction]. It's a really great studio - I worked
there before and I like it a lot. We had a fun time - we started
off with drums with just four mics on the kit, and we're both
into weird things - we got some cool sounds, I think. He has
all vintage gear. I was using all his amps - he has all these
Ampegs, the old style, pop up ones. So we got great guitar sounds
and the bass was really good. He has old tube preamps. Everything
was recorded straight through those with a little bit of compression,
and the preamps sound really nice. As I said, a lot of his stuff
is vintage, so you never really know how much of it is, "Wow,
that machine looks really cool!" is what influences you to say,
"Wow, it sounds great!"
Yeah, let's be honest, I think the
way it looks has something to do with it!
He loves to tell stories about recording
with somebody and they'll be like, "That sounds like crap. Would
you put some stuff on it?" and he'll flip on a bunch of lights
and they'll be like, "Oh yeah, it sounds much better!"
The psychology of recording...
Yeah, pretty much David and Thom
are the main people I've worked with, so just having a good working
relationship is great - because when I used to record with people
where you go in and work with them for a week or two and don't
really have any history or references, even if you're coming
from the same place, it takes a while to establish... Being able
to describe music is such an abstract thing and just knowing
you have a common language, and you know what you're referring
to is very helpful - it just save a lot of time.
Did you bring your own drums to Chase
Park?
No. Actually he has a set. I don't
even think they have a name - it's like a mix. The only thing
I brought was the cymbals, because I'm really picky about cymbal
sounds. I've always been stripped down - snare, kick, cymbals
without any toms. Maybe on one song or something I'll put in
a floor tom, but generally I'm a big advocate of using as little
as possible. I went to school in Western Mass, where Max Roach
was a professor for a while, and in one of his performances,
he played for an hour and a half on just a hi-hat.
Yeah I saw him do that too
- it was really amazing. Sometimes you see drummers with a
double bass kit and miles of gear and they don't even groove.
And I definitely think if you have
more than three cymbals, you've lost control. One or two, maybe
three, but those people who have four or more... it's ridiculous.
Were the drums your first instrument?
Yeah,
that's what I've been playing pretty much my whole life, since
I was twelve. But I also play guitar, bass and keyboards -
and I always throw in some weird percussion, xylophones, things
like that.
When did you start getting into recording?
Well I'd been using a 4-track since
1990 or something. Then I shared a studio with a friend who had
an 8-track and I started getting into it then out of frustration
over recording at studios and always being depressed when it
was done, just wondering, "Why doesn't it sound the way
it does when you play it?" I've actually gone full circle, because I
started recording with bands and wanting the recording to sound
as much like that as possible, but now I pretty much start with
the recording and then try to get the live stuff to emulate that
in some way.
Are you still using the 16-track?
I have the 1" 16-track, but
I've moved out of that studio and I'm moving into a new place,
so I haven't been recording on that much. I've just been shorthand
recording things to computer in the meantime while I'm getting
set up. For the last album, I did some tracks back and forth
between my place and David's place. He has a 2" machine down
there.
How about Pro Tools?
That's what I use when I have to
use digital. I still prefer the analog, but I'm in between studios
so I've been using Pro Tools for a little shorthand recording.
I have some better plug-ins, so it's okay, but I still prefer
analog. There's one album that I did pretty much completely in
Pro Tools because I wanted to try it out for the first time.
Being someone who doesn't use a lot of outboard gear, it's interesting
to see the visual representation of things in Pro Tools. Looking
at the computer screen transforms your understanding of the music
when you see it all broken down in waveforms, and it really helps
me understand what's going on with all the different gear. So
that's been interesting to work with, but as far as the overall
fidelity of stuff, I like to have it at least touch tape, so
it has that tape sound. And then having many more tracks was
nice, even if I didn't always use them. It's nice to have them
there for like, unlimited numbers of tambourines. [laughs]
The tambourine orchestra?
Yeah, exactly.
What's your favorite piece of gear?
I'm lusting after EMI compressors
and preamps.
You didn't steal anything
from Abbey Road, did you?
No. [laughs] I'm not like a total
gear head or anything. I use a few of those little RNCs. But
I love the sound of my board - I have a Studiomaster Series III.
It's got a five band EQ and its from the late 70s/early 80s.
It has a really fat upper mid range. I actually just got a backup
[machine]. I was excited to be able to find it because it took
a lot of searching on eBay.
So you're setting up a new studio?
A friend of mine is opening a place
in Williamsburg [Brooklyn] that's going to be half venue and half
practice spaces. He;s already had a couple of shows there, but
its temporarily on hold while he gets all the city legal stuff
worked out, There are four spaces and some good bands down there.
!!! is there, and the drummer from the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. I'm really
excited to record because the room is two or three times as big
as where I was before, and we built it out right -- the ceilings
are all angled and the floors doubled with wood -- so it'll be
a much better place to record the raw tracks.
So you will be recording basic tracks
there and going going and recording with David again?
I think so. I have two different
records I want to do. One is more along the lines of previous
ones, but I've also been working acoustic, re-recording some
previous songs and also doing some new songs just acoustic. On
previous albums, there's a real thickness and a lot of different
instrumentation, so I like the idea of doing the total opposite
-- trying nothing but guitar and seeing where I end up with that.
Thom Monahan;s done Beachwood Sparks records and stuff like that
-- he's moved to LA and has a studio and I might do some of it
there. So, I'm pretty much doing the basic tracks and writing
the songs, and then I'll figure out what I'm going to do with
it.
You've beeen spending a lot of time
in England. How did that come about?
The last record and EP I put out
were on To Pure, which is an Engli labl, and they brought us
ovThe ficou olbm, Ill Ease was pretty mujsttuo nd, but I've ben
din much more live s latly. We went over to England four times
anplayed a week or two of shows there and in France each time.
We went to Xfm, which was cool, and we went to Radio France.
They have this huge room that's used mostly for classical stuff,
but we were one of the first rock bands they recorded. Since
then they've done some other bands. I think Interpol was there
a little later.
I noticed you played with te Fall.
Yeah, that was like a dream come
true. We did one gig in London opening for them. Whatever you've
bouMark E Smith is all true. He took over the band room for himself
and wouldnt even share it with his won band. But he's still a
great performer. His band is just a bunch of blokes

Careless Talk Costs Lives
Steve Hanson
I
heard Ill Ease's second album "Circle Line Tours" in 1999 and was
infatuated. I Heard Ill Ease's third album "Live at the Holiday
Sin" this year and with lyrics like "industry whores go straight
to hell" alongside "doo be boo bop" choruses, I was
in love. Ill Ease is Elizabeth Sharp ("Can I call you Liz?" I asked).
I have yet to hear her first album, but I'm holding off in case
I suddenly fly to America and become a slavering stalker. The retrospective
"Greatest Tits" EP is now out on Too Pure, it will be her first
record in the UK.
Liz used to drum for New Radiant
Storm King and her playing is incredible. She talks of growing
up in the DC suburbs, getting into harDCore, watching great drummers
from Soulside, Kingface, Swiz and Scream -- and Fugazi of course
-- all fused with a love of Mitch Mitchell. She tells me its
one thing to hear great drummers on record but its another
thing to
see them pull it off. Observing is how she learned her style.
She calls it "spazzy and full". Its certainly unique.
If New Order's Stephen Morris played "faster but slower,"
Liz plays tighter yet looser, but very repetitive. She imitates
her mistakes: if she screws-up, she plays the screw-up over and
over.
Over the top of the beats she layers
minimal guitar or a shivering bass line, maybe a touch of Rhodes
piano (supplied by collaborator Liz Bustamante). All this filters
through a self-diagnosed neurological disorder that makes Liz
get high on certain frequencies. She does grooves obsessively
until you imagine she's found her pitch and her brain is getting
tight, like the dogs in that experiment that were taught to administer
morphine via a foot pedal; they just kept doing it over and over
until they died, no matter what distractions they were offered
(food, bitches in heat).
Liz has explored addiction before,
including "Macon" (on "Circle Line Tours") about
a smacked out Ray Charles, a major hero. If Charles is Brother Ray
then Liz is Sister Ray. Aside from her stamina, there's a narco'd,
frail quality to her vocals as though she's eternally distracted
by a rush of Class A's. An epic demonstration of her mantra is "nick
Groove". It puts you in that trance you get on long motorways.
One could compare it to motorik but its not clean and precise like
Neu!, it has a slightly detuned, literally sick sound. Its a risk
making 10-minute songs but Liz totally fell for the beat on "Sick
Groove" and couldn't stop.
"For Ill Ease, the goal is to
defy expectations," she says. "You naturally assume it's
gotta have peaks and valleys but it doesn't".
The way The Monks or The Fall do
expiations is acknowledged too.
I asked Liz about her "industry
whores" lyrics. She told me how Sesame Street used to conclude
by saying "Today's show is brought to you by the letter Q and
the number 7," whereas now it ends saying "Today's show
is brought to you by the letter Z, for for pharmaceuticals Zithromax
and Zyrtec". Liz's reaction to this is, "Your corporate
sponsor sucks dick, gives good head, is pussy-whipped," sung
to a slow-mo tremolo groove. She thinks now is an embarrassing
time to be an American, remembering the way Tony Blair looked at
George Bush when they first met, like a car crash he couldn't stop
staring at. This is apt because there's a definite road trip going
on in her records. She's always up for a drive, it relates to her
rhythm:
"Distance equals space over time," she says. "Zero
Down Jericho Turnpike" even contains a honking car horn, skanking
like a mechanical dub melodica. Not content with musical innovation,
Liz is also a great photographer, taking many of cars, street signs
and roads. She is the Robert Frank of Polaroid's unpretentious,
populist format and Ill Ease records are adorned with her urban,
hyper-coloured creations.
For all her art suss though, Liz's
final analysis is simple. "I want to make people fucking move
around".

Magnet: Magnified
Cyndi Elliott
"I
am a loner," answers Elizabeth Sharp when accused. For her
third album, Live at the Holiday Sin (Smilex), Sharp holed up in
a seedy motel room outside Atlantic City with her guitars, keyboards,
bass, and, of course, drums. The former thumper for underrated guitar
troopers New Radiant Storm King, gives such a repetitive, dizzy
feel to her music that its assumed she uses samples and loops. Not
true. Though Sharp's sound has been likened to dub remixes of the
Stones -- not an entirely inaccurate description -- its neither
dub nor remixes. Like Amsterdam's Elizabeth Esselink (aka Solex),
Sharp creates her own world, but hers is more hungover and dingy,
like New Jersey, than cheerful and tulip-bright.
Bold ay Sin (recorded with Pernice
Brothers producer Thom Monahan), is a state of mind, a playground
where Sharp toys with desire, drink and the aftermath. There's no
better vehicle for such themes than these addictive, rhythm-heavy
compositions infused with slippery vocals and weaving guitars; when
embellished with her outbursts of 'yeah' and 'uh-huh', Sharp's songs
achieve maximum bump and grind.
"This was the first time that
I had a place like (Springsteen's) The River does," says Sharp
of her album's debt to its locale. "Its about a feeling you
get from a certain place and keeps going back to that".
For Holiday Sin's cover, Sharp (a
photographer whose books were acquired by the MoMA in New York;
look for her work in an upcoming issue of MAGNET) assembled a
series of her shots of old signs around Atlantic City touting "Fun
For All", "Carousel Motel" and "Electronic Ammunition".
"People are like, 'Music. Art.
Two worlds,'" says Sharp. "I kind of hate that, but I
like music that's doing something new. So many bands now do the
retro thing. 'This band is so cool -- they sound just like Joy Division
or Gang of Four.' I love those bands but why remake their music?
I was trying to make a self-contained world."
Still, Ill Ease is a band too. Sharp's
live combo just toured England with Errase Errata and recorded a
BBC session to celebrate Greatest Tits (Too Pure), a vinyl-only
EP that compiles material from her first two albums along with two
unreleased tracks. The British should appreciate the Wire-like bass
thud of 'Yr. Corporate Sponsor' ("sucks dick", goes the
lyrical punchline) and Sharp's unabashed use of the word 'fuck'.
Or maybe they'll take to 'Jack and Ginger', a drinking-metaphor
song on which she declares, "I'm self-destructive and anti-social/Bet
you can't wait to try me/Go home and do the kamikaze."
"People don't always hear the
humor," says Sharp. "I wish that on the fifth listen,
the lyrics could automatically appear. Then people would have time
to formulate their own warped interpretation of what a song is about
first".

Venus Magazine
Peter Nolan
Elizabeth
Sharp is a real sickie. She claims to suffer from a neurological
disorder in which the right sort of aural input stimulates an endorphin
rush to the pleasure centers of her brain. The result: dope records.
Like a trip to New York's Coney Island, it's got plenty of fun rides
if you can put up with feeling nauseous and dirty. This album swings
-- smooth grooves permeated with plenty of New York cool. One of
the most amazing things about E. Sharp is that she is a one-woman
band. She plays all the instruments herself. Hopefully, you're wondering
how the hell she manages to play all those instruments when she
tours. Well, when she's on the road, she employs a band, so in other
words, she's a one-woman band in the recording studio.
Why and when did you start playing
music?
I started playing drums when I was
14. I started playing bass when I was about 17. I don't know when
I started playing guitar and other stuff. I play music because I
have a nervous disorder, so my brain senses music as pleasure.
Do you like to travel and tour?
I love to travel and tour. I like
to travel because my sun is in Sagittarius and so is my Mercury,
so I like to travel, but I'm not a good communicator. In fact, I'm
sort of astrologically doomed to a life of wandering. I like to
tour because I like playing music every night, drinking free beer,
seeing bands for free, and because it's a good way to see a place
and meet cooler people than you would otherwise. Plus, our van has
a good stereo.
I noticed in your press photo that
you have a sticker of Spider Man on your guitar case. Do you like
Spider Man or any other comics?
I didn't know I had a press photo
or a guitar case or a photo of Spider Man on the guitar case. Oh,
OK, now I know, sorry for the confusion -- my mistake. That's a
picture taken by my friend Alex Holden, whom I mention by full name
only because he's coincidentally a great comic book maker, and his
roommate is Caleb Seavey, who not-so-coincidentally plays guitar
in the band. He has a guitar case that I guess has a sticker of
Spider Man on it. You must have a high-voltage magnifying glass
there, or a really keen spider sense. Since you asked, though, my
favorite comic, hands down, is Krazy Kat. Second runner-up: McKay's
Little Nemo in Slumberland or Dream of the Welsh Rarebit Fiend.
What instrument do you enjoy playing
most?
Drums.
When and how did you decide to
create Ill Ease?
When
I moved back to New York City, I started sharing a practice space
with my friend Andy Monteleone who had an eight-track tape machine
and we happened to luck into a great, cheap mixing board. I started
writing songs by myself all the time because I wasn't working much,
occasionally lived at the practice space and have this nervous disorder
I referred to earlier. I realized I really liked playing and recording
by myself and not having to deal with all the stuff that always
comes up when recording and writing music with other people. Time
goes by and the first record comes out and I decided to, you know,
"get the band together," so I asked a couple of friends if they
wanted to tour, and lo and behold they did.
A lot of people know you as the
dope drummer of New Radiant Storm King. Did you enjoy playing in
that band?
I definitely enjoyed it a lot, but
you know, to everything there is a season -- turn, turn, turn.
What are the challenges and advantages
of creating music alone instead of with a band?
The big advantages would be that
you don't have to schedule practices. And I'm always right (joke).
There aren't too many challenges I can think of. Not to sound like
a jerk, but I've definitely spent time playing with different people
and I really enjoy it, but at some point, it always starts to feel
like a relationship or a marriage or some type of commitment thing.
It has its good points and its bad points, but it's just not where
I'm at right now.. When I get a therapist, I'll ask her/him why.
How did you recruit the musicians
you play with live with the Ill Ease band?
Well, Andy is my friend from way
back (the same Andy I mentioned earlier). Caleb is a friend I knew
in Massachusetts, and we reunited in New York. I met Naomi here
a couple years ago, and we've been friends for a while. We all thought
it'd be fun to be stuck inside a tiny, sweaty van for a while. We
all like music and we all enjoy the same recreational activities,
if you know what I mean.
Your songs, especially "Sick Groove,"
remind me of being on one of those rides at the carnival that spin
a lot, except maybe not as fast. Do you like these kinds of rides?
A little. But if I'm at Coney Island
or something like that I'd rather play whack-a-mole or skeeball.
And I never go to those proto-fascist amusement parks like Disney
World because that's where they stick the pro-government chips in
your brain. Not to mention they have inhumane labor practices, colonial/imperialistic
worker relations and are part of the world's stinkiest media monopoly.
But, anyway, I think the music sounds that way because most of the
songs are in a weird time. I like the songs to sound like they're
tripping over themselves but they still have a good groove. Maybe
I like it because I can't dance.
Do you think living in New York
City is like being in a big rat race?
It is for the big rats that want
the big cheese.
Did you grow up there?
No. I grew up in Maryland.
Do you have any advice for young
people -- particularly artists and musicians -- who want to
move to New York?
It's
all right. I guess the editor of this fine magazine is moving here,
so it must not be that bad. My advice would be to avoid living in
Manhattan because you probably can't afford it anyway. Try Queens
or the Boogie Down, the Island of Staten, the B.K., etc. Oh, and
read The Power Broker first; it's the best book I've read in years.
It's way too heavy, but it's about Robert Moses, who designed the
highways, the parks and a lot of city housing from the '30s to the
'70s. It's basically about what a playa he was -- and about all
the big-time players in city politics for the last 50 years.
If you were to make a mixed tape
titled "Music For People Who Are Never At Ease," what 10 songs by
what bands would you put on it?
They're not at ease and they don't
want to be, or they do? Or they're not at ease and they'll just
like these 10 songs because they'll feel so cosmically in tune with
the never-at-ease universe? See, I dunno because I'm pretty into
the art of mix tapes -- it's not just about slapping together any
ol' 10 great songs. You have to allow some breathing room, peaks
and valleys, time to come down etc., etc. What if I just named the
ten tapes I have that I'd never leave home without if I were planning
on going on a never-at-ease road trip. Let's see, not in any order:
1. CCR "Cosmos Factory" / Memphis
Minnie "Travellin Blues"
(with some Blind Willie McTell at the end)
2.The Fall "Dragnet' / X-Ray Spex "Oh Bondage Up Yours"
3. Harvey Milk "The Pleaser" / Jucifer "Calling All Cars"
4. LL's "Walking with a Panther" / Jay Z "Hard Knock Life Vol. 2"
5. Stooges "Fun House" / Stiff Little Fingers "Inflammable Material"
6.Marvin Gaye "Trouble Man" / Little Stevie "I Was Made to Love
Her"
7. ZZ Top's first album / Husker Du "Zen Arcade"
8. L. Cohen "Songs From a Room" / Cars "Candy-O"
(with live Cheap Trick/Cars in '79 at the end of both sides)
9. A Sun Records homemade best-of
10. The best tape of all, which I'm listening to as we e-speak is
a best-of Specialty Records tape that I taped from their five-CD
set "The Specialty Story." It was a '40s Calif boogie-woogie record
label with Lloyd Price, Lou Rawls etc. on it. Five stars: has A/C,
indoor swimming and free champagne with every honeymoon suite.
I read in an interview on the
Drummer Girl site that your favorite record is the Plastic Ono Band.
That is quite a frantic and more spastic type of record than the
cool sort of grooves that you create.
Actually, I'm quite a spaz myself.
I'm always spilling things on people. But I love that record mostly
because it's all about the bass and drums. Then there's some cool
piano thrown on too, and I like the spazzy grooves, like on "Well,
Well, Well." Plus the whole record just seems really honest and
naked in a totally unique way. The production is killer and it flows
in a really nice way too. Would you ever want to make a record like
that? Storm King's first record is pretty goddamn spazzy, I think.
But sure, I'd love to make a really, really spazzy record. I kind
of grew up on hardcore.
How old are you?
I was born December 14, 1971 at 7:15
p.m. (CST) in St. Louis. But I've saved all my hair and fingernail
clippings in a Ziploc bag, so voodoo is out of the question.
How did you get the name Ill Ease?
It's from a song on the first record
that has 'ill ease' in the lyrics, and my initials are E.A.S. I
wish there were a good story about it, but there isn't.
There are lots of interesting
sounds on Circle Line Tours. It says on the record that you don't
use samplers.
I put that on the record just because
I think samplers are the cheap way out a lot of the time. And anyway,
it's always more interesting to play some repetitive riff for six
and a half minutes than to just loop it because if you're actually
playing it the whole time, there's subtle variation and you start
to hear different things in it.
Are some of the sounds on the
record taken from a radio?
There's radio stuff between songs.
Mostly short wave, my favorite of the major wave types.
Turntables?
No, I tried scratching a couple of
times and succeeded in fucking up a bunch of my favorite records.
What else?
Mostly just regular instruments,
plus a lot of piano. The only kind of weird instrument is a toy
xylophone I've had forever. Plus the car horn and the jacket
scratching -- that's what sounds like scratching. Then there's
just a whole mess of vibrato and a healthy splash of natural
reverb 'cause the old practice space was huge and I've never
been very impressed by pedals and pedal pushers. There's some
backward stuff too.
What sound is playing in the background
at the end of the song "False Start, Night Driver?"
It's a chewed-up old four-track tape
with the sound of a pot filling up with water played at fast speed,
my favorite of the two major speed types. There's some pot banging
going on too. I'm definitely into found sounds instead of just "Sounds
Made From Instruments In An Eight Octave Scale."
Do you have a day job?
A bunch of random stuff. My best
recent job was working for Michael Moore's production team for his
new cable show "The Awful Truth," which is, by the way, really,
really funny. I wasn't doing anything especially cool or anything,
I was just running around doing stupid shit. That's mostly what
I do. The thing is that in New York you can get paid $125 a day
to run around and do stupid shit for different people. Which is
great because I happen to be great at running around doing stupid
shit for different people.
How long have you been into photography?
Fo-ever.
I read that you have some stuff
on display at the Museum of Modern Art. How did you get hooked up
with that?
Well, it's not on display but it's
in their library, which is also online. I'd brought some photo books
I made with color Xeroxes to Printed Matter to a SoHo art store
that's pretty cool for SoHo. I guess a woman from MOMA came in and
bought them because I got a letter saying I was in the collection
of emerging artists or something like that, and asking a bunch of
questions about my influences and what-not.
Do you have a favorite camera?
I only use Polaroids because I don't
got no teknikal no-how.
What sorts of things do you like
to take pictures of?
Like the stuff on the covers. Things
that don't have any scale around them but have a lot of color (usually
taken close to sunset). The books in MOMA are called "27 silos of
the rich and famous," which are all photos of silos, some of which
are rich and famous; "the tragic rise and fall of the number 32,"
which are pictures of the number 32 on parking lots and in different
places (kind of about O.J. and what not); "the disappearing act,"
which is a sort of story about this little metal object; "nothing
short of monumental," and one other I can't remember the title of
right now.
How do you describe your music?
Crisp and clean and no caffeine.
Taste great, less filling. Built to stay that way. Engineered to
destroy. All the fine tuning you'll ever need.
On Circle Line Tours, you write
about places and not feeling well. Where do you get inspiration
to write your songs?
I've lived in a lot of places. I
don't think that I don't feel well too much of the time, but I guess
maybe so. A lot of the songs are stories with characters in them
just told in the first person. My favorite lyricists are Slick Rick
and Mark E. Smith, but I don't think I have as good a sense of humor
of either of them unfortunately.
If there's anything else you'd
like to add, feel free.
Since you asked, let's see ... I
think the world is becoming one huge corporate monopoly. In the
next 100 years, governments will disappear and there will only be
multi-national corporations like AT&T, Seagram's, and Time/Warner
controlling all means of communication and transportation. MTV is
a corporate monopoly just by itself, not to mention Viacom. The
U.S. government has given up on regulating companies, and decided
to become part of the showbiz spectacle. Our biggest commodity is
culture, the entertainment industry is the new imperialism. Stand
up and be part of the spectacle. Yeah.

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